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I’m fairly sensitive to exaggerations, half truths and outright lies that are told as part of any campaign, especially when they are on the same side as me.  I try to do sufficient research, to read the stories and check out the facts before taking a position.  So today’s post is the outright lies told by the No on 8 Campaign. 

Lie: Yes on 8 is sponsored and financed by big out of state interest groups.

Fact:  The No on 8 campaign has received a full 37% of its money from donors out of state compared to a measly 20.1% for the Yes on 8 campaign.

SourceLA Times Money Tracker (10/16/08)


Lie:  Failure of Prop 8 will not lead to the forced expansion of the gay agenda, including the attempts to limit religious freedom.

Fact:  The backers of No on 8 have used every legal maneuver they could in Massachusetts to prevent parental consent in schools and limit the opportunities for religious group to operate unmolested.

Source: Massachusetts Court Records


Lie: No on 8 will not lead to a slippery slope of marriage arrangements

Fact: The Netherlands , the first country to legalize homosexual marriage, allows multipartner unions (polygamy).

Source: The Brussels Journal


Lie: No on 8 is about Love

Fact: No on 8 is about social acceptance of a damaging shift in family relationship and the promotion of homosexual freedoms at the cost of religious freedoms.

Source: New York Times


The Bible famously states that “By their fruit you shall know them.”  I suppose it shouldn’t be a surprise that those that hate religion would break the eighth commandment – “Thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” 


** Thanks to an article on  for providing some of these glaring falsehoods.



    • Ben T
    • Posted October 17, 2008 at 10:05 pm
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    Proponents of gay marriage in general don’t seem to be very concerned with reality. A typical example is in the New York times article you posted. A law professor interviewed in that article scoffed when he was asked if a conservative Christian college might be forced to allow same-sex married couples to live in its on-campus married housing. Apparantly he wasn’t aware that a similar event had already occurred in New York City. Yeshiva University, a conservative Jewish school, was forced by NY’s highest court to allow same-sex couples (who are not even allowed to be married under NY law) to live in its married student housing. See
    Good blog, by the way.

    • beetlebabee
    • Posted October 19, 2008 at 6:33 am
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    If you ever want to have facts and resources at your fingertips, this blog I found is for a scientific guy that has all the gay marriage studies he’s found by category. When I’m out in some forum discussing gay marriage with people and they say, so, what are your sources? This is the place to go. he’s exceedingly thorough. It’s actually pretty refreshing to be able to have facts to back us up.

    The data is out there! and it supports our side.

    • beetlebabee
    • Posted October 20, 2008 at 6:00 am
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    I think using Teacher’s Union Dues to fund homosexual marriage is just wrong. Did they even ask those teachers first? Did they vote? No!

    I’m keeping my four kids home this Tuesday for the CTA Backlash Sick-Out. The schools have to get the message that we’re where their money comes from. The bulk of Californians don’t like being messed around with. So if my four kids don’t show up, that’s a lot of money gone from the school that day.

    Teachers can get their union dues that were used to fund no on 8 refunded. It’s their right. It amounts to about 300.00 per teacher. Just imagine if every teacher supporting prop 8 pulled their dues and turned around and gave them to YES on prop 8! Ouch!

    Here’s how:

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