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One of the principle issues that has driven me to publish some of my thoughts is California’s Proposition 8 that is on the November ballot.  I was fairly involved in the campaign for Proposition 22 back in 2000, walked a few precincts, put up a sign – the regular stuff – and while we knew it was important we were pretty much following the rest of the country in codifying what everyone already knew (at least 61% knew).  This time is much different.  Which the CA Supremes doing their best impression of . . . well I’m not sure what . . . not judges, we now have to turn the tide, not just surf the wave.  We live in a world full of examples now with one state and many countries demonstrating what happens when Marriage means anything or nothing.  Religious leaders threatened or sued for hate speech in Canada, schools teaching homosexual behavior as normal and equal with heterosexual behavior in Massachusetts.  The Brazilian senate is considering a bill already approved by their assembly that makes it illegal to speak against homosexuality in any forum.  At the heart of these consequences is the brewing conflict between religion and homosexuality.  In my experience it is religion that is the more tolerant of the two groups.  Religious leaders may preach against the sins involved in homosexual relationships, but rarely do an enlightened preachers propose that individuals be denied the right to make thier own choice.  The opposition groups talk about preserving rights, but history and example demontrate that religious Rights are really what is at stake should Proposition 8 fail.  My current favorite web site for Prop 8 info is the “What is Prop 8” site – lots of good info – organized well.



    • Marc T
    • Posted October 13, 2008 at 4:43 pm
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    This is a well-reasoned comment on a very important supject. Almost every day we find new reasons why this is an important issue. Just yesterday I read about a an Francisco Chronicle article about a first-grade class that took a school-sponsored firld trip to their teacher’s gay marriage ceremony presided over by Mayor Gavin Newsom of San Francisco. I wonder how the parents of those six and seven year-olds felt about this tax-payer sponsored activity? We must support Proposition 8 for the sake of our children and their children.

    The website that you indicated is very good. There is also lots of good information about Proposition 8 at

    • beetlebabee
    • Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:10 am
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    That first grade class story was completely stunning to me. Here’s the link: You know, every generation has it’s battles. My grandpa’s generation fought the world wars. Our grandfathers before them fought a hundred wars for freedom. In every country, on every continent, the human soul hungers for freedom and pays a price to obtain it. Sometimes the price is goods and means, sacrifice, sweat and tears. Sometimes the price is blood, and it’s paid. This fight is the fight of our generation. It will affect more than our state, it will affect our entire nation for generations to come. It’s a fight definitely worth fighting for. What have we got 22 days left until the election? Not very long.

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